Wednesday, June 18, 2008

I recieved another damned email about OBAMA

what's this got to do with Hannah's Haven?
well, I want to show it to you:




SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE TRUE AND SOME FALSE ACCORDING TO THE SNOPES WEB SITE.
MY ADVISE IS FOR ALL TO PRAY AND SEEK GOD ABOUT THIS ELECTION. WE ARE IN A SAD CONDITION IN AMERICA WITH LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON IN ALL OUR OUT SENATES, HOUSE AND WHITE HOUSE. MAY GOD HELP AMERICA TO RETURN AND REPENT TO GOD.
CARLTON
A man will come from the East
All I can say is mighty scary what everything is pointing to. We had better say lots of prayers folks, when it comes to this presidential candidate

MAY WE ALL PRAY FOR WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT AND PRAY FOR EACH OTHER
AS WE MAKE THIS DECISION OF A LIFETIME! OUR LIVES, CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN'S LIVES WILL BE CHANGED FOREVER BECAUSE OF OUR CHOICE THIS
ELECTION. MAY GOD BE WITH US ALL!

God help us if this man is elected!! But it is all stated
in the Bible and it will happen sooner or later.

This is from Darlene Millican, wife of the pastor
of Trinity Bapt. Church here in Sun City .

I have felt for sometime now that Obama is the
one person that 'Frightens Me'. I believe the Bible has
warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be
charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our
problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!'

When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and understand that
this man is 'A Muslim'....First, Last and Always....and we are AT WAR with
the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart, secular,
Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every description from the Bible
of the 'Anti-Christ'!

I'm just glad to know that there are others that are frightened by this man!

Who is Barack Obama?

Very interesting and something that should be
considered in your choice.

If you do not ever forward anything else, please
forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to
think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United
States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.

snopes.com
' confirms this
is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

U. S. presidential candidate, Barack
Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu ,
Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM
from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
Wichita , Kansas

Obama's parents met at the
University of Hawaii ..
When Obama was two years old, his parents
divorced. His father returned to
Kenya His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL
Muslim from Indonesia . When Obama was 6 years
old, the family relocate
to Indonesia ... Obama attended
a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two
years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that
he is a Muslim . He is quick to point out that, 'He was once
a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to
make it appear that that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to
Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his
son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his
stepson to Islam. Obama
was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta .

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists
who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically
expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has
joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay
his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was
sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any
reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama
turns his back to the flag and slouches. Do you want someone like this as your PRESIDENT?

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what
better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States , one of their own! The
Bible says 'He will come from among you!'

Please forward to everyone you know.

Would you want this man leading our country?

NOT ME!!!

WITHOUT GOD, WE ARE NOTHING!!!


HERE IS MY RESPONSE TO HER:

so let me ask you a few questions-
is a president who claims to be born again- but lies, steals- and sends our babies to fight his father's war- more of a christian?

the bible says we will know His people by the fruit they bear-

forwarding crap like this junk mail is encouraging rumors that may or may not be truth.

Let's say it is true- that he is the antichrist....

should we pray against the hand of God? Pray against what the future?

I would think that someone in Christ would rejoice at the end coming- for He will come again for those in Him- and there will be a new heaven and earth- without all this evil-

and I would think that those in Christ would not pass around gossip that may or may not be true.

am I voting for him?

no. but I find most politicians to be liars and thieves...

and try to use wisdom when reading and sending junk mail.

Why not write me and ask how we are doing? or get together with the kids sometime- or tell me how you are doing- or your family.


that means more than once a year mass junk emails Kelly-

said in love- don't send me these things anymore.


WHY I SHARE THIS WITH YOU?

This came from a woman who was a member of the church that we attended- a woman with children that are young- a woman whom I onced called friend. A woman who, when she had her twins; I drove a half hour many nights with my own children- to bring meals to and be there for her in love.....

a woman who when we left the church; never asked why.

a woman who doesn't call- or write me emails even- unless it is to invite me to a church performance or to help her in a fundraiser for her daughter's christian schooling.

I NEVER adress these kinds of relationships that were once so intense and real that they were family. WHY?

because I was trained well not to "cause division" in the body of christ- not to leave the church murmuring and gossiping......because I was trained to be afraid to PUT UP BOUNDARIES.

So I pat myself on the back for the return message to this woman........the woman that was like a sister as long as I remained in their group-
who is now a stranger and has no time for friendship except to ask for money or send me MASS emails.......

AND I AM ANGRY ABOUT THESE EMAILS.

It brings me back to the days when the Pastor would mock the democratic voters....
as my husband and I sat silently in church as registered democrats wondering HOW HE COULD TALK ABOUT POLITICS and remain non profit/ non taxed.....

and when I once asked. . . . .

was told, "HE NEVER TALKS POLITICS, HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT"

which of course caused me to doubt myself, hang my head in shame and confusion; and walk away.

Now I know that for what it is; MANIPULATION.

He spoke from the pulpit; he spoke freely....and anyone who disagreed with HIS politics was stupid, idiot, niave or crazy.

We were "in the closet democrats".

WHY?

Why do people take the word of one and make it truth without looking at the facts?

READ this email. . . . OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST ? ? ?

so was Hitler, so was the Pope (according to Luther) and so is BUSH (according to me)

GET A GRIP.

If you believe in the anti christ- and you are a christian- WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT HIM TO COME? IT IS THE FULLFILLMENT OF YOUR OWN PROPHECIES UNFOLDING BEFORE YOUR EYES!

and if you're like me.......

not quite sure what the antichrist thing is all about anymore because there was more EVIL in fundamentalistic cult like christianity than anything I read about regarding OBAMA.

OK, Off my pedastal. Needed to VENT this.

Not saying that I am voting for this guy- just saying "STOP SENDING ME MEAN SPIRITED GOSSIP EMAILS IN THE NAME OF JESUS"

talk about abomination at the alter.

more than anything; it hurts. Her lack of friendship after we left. The abuse that distorted my thinking; the shame that I felt. . . the confusing and conflictual messages....

the fact that I allowed this stuff when I have a brain and knew better . . .

8 comments:

sandwhichisthere said...

Just a few thoughts that flittered through my mind while reading your post.

No human being knows more about God than any other human being. God is, God always was, and God always will be.
The church you mention seems to be having a problem with dissenters. Now they know how the Catholic church felt about Luther. Would Luther be welcome in that church? They are against flag burning but I am sure they could somehow justify igniting a few dissenters.
Politics: Mark Twain explained politics very simply "No man's life or property are safe while the legislature is in session.".
I have my own theory "It is only on a cold day in Hell that you can see a politician with his hands in his own pockets.".
Iceland, Norway, and Germany all seem to place the welfare of their people above that of mega corporations. I wonder if they have anything in common that could be responsible for such a radical concept.
My Father once told me "If you have a choice between a zealot and a thief, vote for the thief. The thief will steal a bunch and then get nervous, disassociate from other thieves, and start doing his job. A zealot will lead the nation blindly down his own private path to destruction, and then declare "Mission Accomplished!" Sorry, I am a yellow dog Democrat. The party of Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, and Clinton just appeals to me. I wonder if they were secretly from Iceland?

David Cho said...

You found your password! Welcome back to blogging. Maybe I should update my blog now.

Great to see you again.

David Cho said...

Finally got around to read the email from your friend.

What a grammatical train wreck.

She may want to pick up from Obama a few tips on writing with clarity and coherence.

As to the alarmist garbage, it happens every four years. We've come a long way since FDR declared, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

I really fear these people's psychotic paranoia.

Brotha Buck said...

Oh brother. This post made me sick to my stomach. Really, it did.

Mary said...

I am so sorry that this woman betrayed you in this way. Remember what the Bible says about being prosecuted for believing in Him. Yes, we will be prosecuted for our beliefs.

Praying for your hurt. Thanks for stopping by my Writing Nook. It's nice to meet you. Drop by again when you can.

Blessings,
Mary

Anonymous said...

the most fascinating thing to me about her email was that every time she said, "the bible says..." and then made some statement inquotes about the "antichrist", i couldn't for the life of me, recall those things actually being in the bible.

that's the trouble with evangelicalism. so many of their core beliefs about the bible, and what's in it, aren't actually in there.

you would think for people who thump it so hard that they would actually pick it up and read it once in awhile.

Valorosa said...

My My lol

I wonder if those who think this way are hiding in their closets now!

Delirious said...

Hey, who is the winner at A2A? :)